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		<title>FlameWars</title>
		<link>http://www.seops.co.uk/2006/02/07/flamewars/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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In a galaxy far far away &#8230;.. dum dum dum dee dee dum well something like that anyway lol
People have said a lot of things in the past few weeks about a certain competition V7N , So I jumped in with both feet, why people will ask, to be honest because I was bored. Remember [...]]]></description>
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In a galaxy far far away &#8230;.. dum dum dum dee dee dum well something like that anyway lol</p>
<p>People have said a lot of things in the past few weeks about a certain competition <a target="_blank" href="http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/archives/2006/01/10/v7n-dickheads/">V7N</a> , So I jumped in with both feet, why people will ask, to be honest because I was bored. Remember I had a go at Jason Calcanis, and Blog Herald jumped all over me .. lol not Jason hmm</p>
<p>Well I had a go at John Scott recently mainly because I felt that he was having a pop at Mike Grehan, well I think those two have kissed and made up now so I&#8217;m not going into the details..</p>
<p>So why am I posting this .. dead easy, FlameWars can and do get you links. Ok the Flamewars rules :</p>
<p><strong>a) Pick your fighting ground</strong><br />
Example <a title="threadwatch" href="http://www.threadwatch.org/node/5513">Threadwatch</a>, Notice Seobook is just pointing out a writeup on SeoBuzzBox, Ok Threadwatch is one of playing grounds like V7N, so if you&#8217;re going to pick a fight pick a ground you feel comfortable with.</p>
<p><strong>b) Get in quick and straight to the point !</strong><br />
OK I knew that telling John to suck my dick would make him rise to the bait &#8230; well it had to really, lol. Also notice the &#8220;officially NOT on the fence so you better pick a side&#8221; to seobook .. chances are <a title="aaron wall" href="http://www.seobook.com">Aaron wall</a> won&#8217;t bite back at me ..(phew He didn&#8217;t) but someone would have to back him up, hopefully <a href="http://www.mikedammann.com">John Scott&#8217;s Troll</a> <img src='http://www.seops.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>c) The response </strong><br />
John Scott returns his volley, it&#8217;s a very good return, and I would have been done and walked away. I knew that people would post the calm down or stop being childish etc threads, but John made a schoolboy error he posted a controversial image of a disabled child ! ( now in his playing ground that might have been acceptable but not here .. oops )</p>
<p><strong>d) Sit back</strong><br />
The community should now attack or walk away, top tip&#8230; you do the same lol (notice half way down John Scott post</p>
<p><a class="active"><strong>e) Wait and wait some more</strong> ..<br />
BINGO the target .. yes a Flamewar should always target someone who is defending someone else. Mike Dammann steps up .. thank you lord a fool</a></p>
<p><a class="active">Mike Dammann&#8217;s Post :<br />
looking at people like DaveN and Mike Grehan and their lack of class and manners. So should everyone in this industry be.</a></p>
<p><a class="active"><strong>Class and manners&#8230; ok, Mike Grehan has these, so he may feel offended but not me</strong></a></p>
<p><a class="active">I find it surprising that anyone would want to associate himself with such individuals. That speaks very poorly of our industry as a whole that anyone that low could be accepted as equals within our community.</a></p>
<p><a class="active"><strong>LOL I&#8217;m a Blackhat Seo. I work in Casinos, Pills, Loans, and the Affiliate marketplace, Notice the Naked Bull Riding !! (</strong><em>added for my whitehat corp clients, I still love you guys too</em><strong>)</strong></a></p>
<p><a class="active">Those 2 are yes men and what DaveN has suggested for John Scott to do to him &#8230; wouldn&#8217;t be a surprise to me if that is how Mike and Dave have gotten your foot into the door somehow.</a></p>
<p><a class="active"><strong>YES men HAHAHAHA, that&#8217;s too funny I nearly pissed myself , you see Mr Damman, you have the good and you have the evil, we are not the same by a long shot, I mud wrestle in the serps , while Mike swims in champagne, both top of our Game, just different games lol</strong></a></p>
<p><a class="active">Aaron doesn&#8217;t have to pick any side, Dave. You don&#8217;t get it. He is not on your level, he&#8217;s intelligent enough to understand seo without sucking up to anyone, and he is mature enough to choose his battles well and not fall into the herd mentality.</a></p>
<p><a class="active"><strong>Yep, I agree I threw the Aaron bit in to find my Troll <img src='http://www.seops.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></a></p>
<p><a class="active">But then again, if it wasn&#8217;t for following someone, you and Mike Grehan would be working at McDonalds or cleaning trainstation bathrooms together</a></p>
<p><a class="active"><strong>Lol that&#8217;s too funny as well, I have worked at a Happy Eater (they are like McDonald&#8217;s but on our</strong><strong> motorways), while I was saving up to go to college to learn how to programme which was kind of a big step because none of my friends or family were into computers, so that kind of rules out the bit about having to follow someone.<br />
</strong></a></p>
<p><a class="active">I have no problems of you bad mouthing me and you linking to my site, after all you&#8217;re a fucking nobody, but isn&#8217;t that part of the game, but please get some facts right .</a></p>
<p><a class="active">I have been married twice, but never walk out on my family<br />
I do live in a half a million pound house  and have never lived in my car<br />
I always pay my way and never free load or sneak into places<br />
I have rode a bull naked (well with my boxers still on!)<br />
And the ONLY competition I will be entering is the Greg and DaveN Vodka challenge, But again thanks for the Links</a></p>
<p><a class="active">DaveN</a></p>
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		<title>Big Time Spammers with Golden Hammers</title>
		<link>http://www.seops.co.uk/2006/01/27/big-time-spammers-with-golden-hammers/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DaveN</dc:creator>
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Ok, me and some of my friends, get some real bad press in certain Forums, and why, because we are BIG TIME SPAMMERS. Well I thought maybe we are evil, maybe we do paint ourselves blue and dance around a fire whilst whipping ourselves with stinging nettles, while chanting to the evil over lords ( [...]]]></description>
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<p>Ok, me and some of my friends, get some real bad press in certain Forums, and why, because we are BIG TIME SPAMMERS. Well I thought maybe we are evil, maybe we do paint ourselves blue and dance around a fire whilst whipping ourselves with stinging nettles, while chanting to the evil over lords ( you know there&#8217;s a cartoon for that ! )&#8230;</p>
<p>Then I thought bullshit .. all we do is make websites rank in the top ten across all the search engines.. so, what&#8217;s so bad about that , yer we cloak, yer we rank for odd keyword combos <img src='http://www.seops.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  and YES YES YES we break the SE rules but we run the risk not you !!.. anyway after hearing Danny Sullivan Sing on WebmasterRadio, I thought Damn he is GOOD, I wonder if I wrote the Lyrics he could sing it, So because I&#8217;m a so called Big Bad Spammer I just took an original song and rewrote it .. Hey Danny what do you say ??<br />
Coughing, blues? : GU&#8211;don’t touch me there!<br />
GU: I’m gonna tell you who we are.</p>
<p>Well we’re Big Time Spammers<br />
We got golden Hammers<br />
And we’re loved everywhere we go<br />
(that sounds like us)</p>
<p>We spam about beauty<br />
And we spam about truth<br />
At ten million dollars a show<br />
(yeah, right!)</p>
<p>We sell all kinda pills<br />
That give us all kinda thrills<br />
But the thrill you&#8217;ll never known<br />
Is the thrill that it gets ya<br />
When you get your picture<br />
On the cover of the Doug Heil Show</p>
<p><strong>Chorus:</strong></p>
<p>Doug Heil Show<br />
I’m gonna see my picture on the cover<br />
Gonna Spam five copies for my mother<br />
Gonna see my smiling face<br />
On the cover of the Doug Heil Show</p>
<p>Now it’s all designed to blow our minds,<br />
But our minds won’t really be blown<br />
Like the blow that’ll getcha<br />
When you get your picture<br />
On the cover of the rolling stone</p>
<p><strong>Spoken:</strong> hey, I know how!!!<br />
Solo<br />
<strong>Spoken:</strong> beautiful!</p>
<p>We gotta lot of little teen-aged<br />
Blue-eyed groupies<br />
Who do anything we say<br />
We got a genuine indian spammer<br />
He’s buying links the better way</p>
<p>We got all the friends that money can buy,<br />
So we never have to be alone<br />
And we keep gettin’ richer,<br />
But we can’t get our picture<br />
On the cover of the Doug Heil show<br />
<strong><br />
Talking:</strong><br />
I don’t know why we ain’t on the cover, baby!<br />
Ah we’re beautiful fellas!<br />
I ain’t kiddin’ you man, we’d make a beautiful cover<br />
I mean, I can see it right now&#8211;we be up front,<br />
Oh, we be smilin’&#8230;.beautiful!</p>
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		<title>The Truth : Naked Bull Riding</title>
		<link>http://www.seops.co.uk/2006/01/26/the-truth-naked-bull-riding/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DaveN</dc:creator>
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Ok lets get this on a roll, If I&#8217;m going to take the piss out of the Search Industry I might as well, start with ME !!
Well while out drinking with Lex, Oilman and Chad, we ended up in The Only Bar in New Orleans which had a Mechanical Bull.. Hell yer !!
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<p>Ok lets get this on a roll, If I&#8217;m going to take the piss out of the Search Industry I might as well, start with ME !!</p>
<p>Well while out drinking with Lex, Oilman and Chad, we ended up in The Only Bar in New Orleans which had a Mechanical Bull.. Hell yer !!</p>
<p>Anyway I was challenged to ride the bull and drunkenly accepted. So as Lex goes to ask the dude how much for a ride, I downed my beer ( Idea being that the drunker you are the braver you are, therefore I would do amazing stunts on the bull and impress everyone !! )..<br />
So as I approach Lex, while she is bartering the price for 3 of us ( Oilman was chicken, and Chad hadn’t quite caught up from dinner yet), The DUDE SAID and the words still ring strong in my ears, it&#8217;s 10 Bucks a go or FREE if you do it in your underwear. In a flash I was stood in my Boxer shorts, the challenge had just got much more interesting&#8230; seeming how Lex would not get naked with US .. she had to forfeit the challenge ( good friggin job too, she hung on like a monkey in heat) .. and would have easily won ..</p>
<p>So armed with my boxer shorts and a smile, I slowly walked to the bull. Thoughts of how I could enter the Hall of Fame, Seo&#8217;s would talk about how great DaveN rode the N.O. BULL .. Ok in my Mind I had a Plan , I had seen it on TV, Climb ON &#8230; Get your balance, one arm in the air, hold on, and give the go ahead to start your Ride of Fame. The Bull moves forward you lean back, the Bull moves back you lean forward.. After a minute you find yourself shouting yeeehaw or YahoooooOOooooo! in my case ..</p>
<p>Well that was the plan, what actually happened was I stumbled forward and climbed onto the Bull (actually they are big in real life), Ok I think .. then shit.. oh shit .. fuck fuck fuck .. Now the dude is asking me “you ok !!” , I squeeze my legs around the Bull, raise One arm , squeeze legs tighter and tighter, I look the dude square in the eyes and say Hell yer , ..</p>
<p>This is it, my 5 minutes of fame.. The Bull Slowly moves forward.. I lean back &#8230; good I Think &#8230; and then for fucks sake, The Bull dips to the right then raises it’s great plastic head, by this time (2 seconds in) .. Both my arms are wrapped around the Bulls neck, my legs are holding on so tight my toes are Blue.. Then the bull throws itself into a suicide head first drive..</p>
<p>I feel like I&#8217;m floating.. Then the pain of the leather rushing past my naked inner thighs and the crunch of the plastic bulls head as I crashed my nuts into it was all I could take.. Then it was over 3 maybe 4 seconds.. It took me longer to get on to my feet than I stayed on the bull. Now in pain and feeling down, the Bull Riding Dude turned to me and said &#8230; and this will stay with me even longer than the 10 bucks or naked thing&#8230;</p>
<p>He actually said .. &#8220;Dude, you know you have 2 go &#8217;s&#8221; &#8230; holy shit, how lucky was that, I would get a chance to fulfil my dream of been on the Seo wall of fame, the pain disappeared (*could have been drink) I climbed onto the bull … well that’s for another DAY ..</p>
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		<title>DaveN Starts a Another Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.seops.co.uk/2006/01/25/daven-starts-a-another-blog/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DaveN</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, so in my spare time I have been playing around, and decided to take a look at the search industry from a Mini Me and even a Mini You perspective.

SE Ops will be looking at the players in the industy and the not so players. We will be bringing you the latest happenings in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so in my spare time I have been playing around, and decided to take a look at the search industry from a Mini Me and even a Mini You perspective.<br />
<img alt="DaveN starts another Blog OMG" id="image9" src="http://www.seops.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/DaveN_intro.gif" /><br />
SE Ops will be looking at the players in the industy and the not so players. We will be bringing you the latest happenings in a light hearted comical sense, so please do not take offence to this blog&#8230;it is just for fun. For the serious stuff you can still check out the <a title="David Naylor" href="http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/">official DaveN site</a>.</p>
<p>I would welcome any comments or suggestions of stories to cover but you will have to bear with me to give me a bit of time to create my team of chararcters!</p>
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